Exit Through the Gift Shop

Posted in Post on 28.Dec.10 - 361 by Kerwin


I know I’m a little late on this but the Banksy movie “Exit Through the Gift Shop” was awesome. I really hope it’s a hoax thought because Mr.Brainwash is a tool.

netflix link for those interested in watching it
http://bit.ly/eQHOs5

DADT debate on the facey book.

Posted in Post on 24.Dec.10 - 357 by Kerwin

An innocuous post on Facebook turned into a textual brawl. After realizing that Facebook makes it really hard to export comment threads, I meticulously copy pasted the whole thing here. It’s in chronological order. My friend Stacy is pretty well written in this little spat. As with every debate on the internets ever, no minds were changed in this debate.

Stacy J. Sciarra FINALLY and IT”S ABOUT TIME. :)
Obama to sign repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’
www.cnn.com

Stacy J. Sciarra I’ve been working on this for quite a few years… nice to see it finally repealed. Now, let’s see gay marriage legalized during this presidency.

Mike Atherton That’s not what a marriage is. Maybe there’s another word for gays uniting as a couple, but marriage is between a man and a woman.

Ric Rose And the debate begins…..

Stacy J. Sciarra ‎@Mike, why is that not what marriage is?
@Ric – you know I’m always up for a good debate. :)

Mike Atherton because that’s what marriage always has been…

Stacy J. Sciarra define “that’s what marriage has always been” … between a man and a woman? I think that’s outdated thinking. If you look back at the laws governing marriage – you will see that once upon a time interracial couples could not marry. You will find that women were treated as property. You will find a lot of things that aren’t what marriage should be. And defining it as strictly between a man and a woman is based off of misguided religion and our country has the separation of church and state — so, therefore, I believe that marriage should be equal.

Kerwin J. Flaherty My question is this, if marriage is something set out by “god” then how can the state govern someone’s religious beliefs? If it’s a purely secular matter, then what reason do you have to discriminate against two consenting adults?

Mike Atherton marriage has always been since God put Adam and Eve on Earth- a man and a woman. And if I remember correctly from high school, you are Jewish and so you should freshen up on your Jewish laws of homosexuality found in your Torah. It’s in there in several places like Bereshit (Genesis) and Vayiqra (Leviticus)18:23 and 20:13. We mustn’t let societal changes persuade us to allow forbidden acts of sin! This doesn’t mean we should treat gays any different than straight people or women different than men or blacks different than white. That’s trying to compare apples to oranges. We should treat all individuals equal, but marriage is for a man and a woman. We wouldn’t exist if we were all gay. We were made to reproduce with the opposite sex which is exactly how nature (God) intended it! It’s the same with animals. It’s not outdated thinking. Has anyone proven the Torah and Bible to be wrong? So far everything is coming true and following what they say should be a little more important than what the ungodly society wants. Same sex marriage has been illegal for thousands of years for a reason and should remain that way.

Mike Atherton marriage has always been since God put Adam and Eve on Earth- a man and a woman. And if I remember correctly from high school, you are Jewish and so you should freshen up on your Jewish laws of homosexuality found in your Torah. It’s in there in several places like Bereshit (Genesis) and Vayiqra (Leviticus)18:23 and 20:13. We mustn’t let societal changes persuade us to allow forbidden acts of sin! This doesn’t mean we should treat gays any different than straight people or women different than men or blacks different than white. That’s trying to compare apples to oranges. We should treat all individuals equal, but marriage is for a man and a woman. We wouldn’t exist if we were all gay. We were made to reproduce with the opposite sex which is exactly how nature (God) intended it! It’s the same with animals. It’s not outdated thinking. Has anyone proven the Torah and Bible to be wrong? So far everything is coming true and following what they say should be a little more important than what the ungodly society wants. Same sex marriage has been illegal for thousands of years for a reason and should remain that way.

Stacy J. Sciarra first of all – religion has nothing to do with this – we’re talking about laws … federal and state laws. Second, while I appreciate the effort at quoting the Torah, I must say – that will not win any arguments with me.
You said that we’re here to reproduce, does that mean that couples who can’t have children shouldn’t be allowed to be married? or couples that choose NOT to have children shouldn’t be married? that’s not a valid argument.
It’s not a sin – I’m sorry that you feel that way, but discrimination is discrimination. I will continue to fight for equal rights. It’s not comparing apples to oranges.

Kerwin J. Flaherty You ignored my question.
http://bit.ly/dI4bXz
What about gay animals? Does god hate them to?

Also, the bible and torah are hardly good text to for morality.

“Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.” (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Kerwin J. Flaherty Also,
“Do not trim off the hair on your temples or trim your beards.”
Leviticus 19:27

Stacy J. Sciarra and correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it all the straight people that keep having gay babies?

Kerwin J. Flaherty It’s because god is punishing the child for the sins of the parents, obviously.

Stacy J. Sciarra The REAL reasons people oppose gay marriage: a) not comfortable with the idea b) it threatens everything THEIR religion stands for c) marriage is a “sacred institution” (that plenty of people mock and disrespect… I have three ex-husbands that are a testament to that) and somehow gay marriage violates that sanctity – (and really, come on – marriage is a legal contract – nothing more, nothing less.)

If we’re throwing out quotes … How about Deuteronomy 25:5-10, for example: “When brothers reside together, and one of them dies and has no son, the wife of the deceased shall not be married outside the family to a stranger. Her husband’s brother shall go in to her, taking her in marriage and performing the duty of a husband’s brother to her, and the firstborn whom she bears shall succeed to the name of the deceased brother, so that his name may not be blotted out of Israel. But if the man has no desire to marry his brother’s widow, then his brother’s widow shall go up to the elders at the gate and say ‘My husband’s brother refuses to perpetuate his brother’s name in Israel; he will not perform the duty of a husband’s brother to me. Then the elders of his town shall summon him and speak to him. If he persists, saying ‘I have no desire to marry her,’ then his brother’s wife shall go up to him in the presence of the elders, pull his sandal from his foot, spit in his face, and declare ‘This is what is done to the man who does not build up his brother’s house. Throughout Israel his family will be known as ‘the house of him whose sandal was pulled off.’”

Mike Atherton Who are we then to decide what is right and wrong, legal and illegal? Maybe everyone should get to do what they want… Where do we draw the line to say something is okay or not? Maybe it’s right to murder, steal, etc… Then what’s the next step, legalizing having sex with and marrying animals? Humans are just creatures that evolved just like animals, right? So if we’re so close to being the same as animals, we both have hearts, lungs, brains, sexual organs, etc… let’s mate! Maybe I think that is right and so it should be legal. Gotta go, will be back to debate the other stuff!

Mike Atherton ‎@Kerwin- your theory holds no weight on God’s punishment for sinners. What about all the sinners who never had anything bad happen to them? They pay by going to Hell.

Stacy J. Sciarra it’s your religion, not mine. that argument holds no weight either.

Mike Atherton What does your religion say about if God punishes sinners?

Stacy J. Sciarra this isn’t a religous matter… this is a civil rights issue that is going through our government — which … again… we have the spearation of church and state.

Kerwin J. Flaherty TL;DR: I’m pretty sure that homosexuals should be extended the same rights as heterosexuals under U.S. law.

How can you equate zoophilia to sex between two consenting adults? It’s funny though, in the bible it says if someone porks a cow, you have to stone the guy and the cow. What did the cow do to anyone?

How does two people being able to gain the same legal status as another couple affect you? If it’s about religion, then that has no bearing. We live in a secular country. If you want to spout the drivel about the founding fathers setting this great nation up for god, I point you towards article 11 of the “The Barbary Treaties”
http://bit.ly/e6jq4A

Legally, any pastor, priest, bishop, or preacher who are lobbying on a political issue should lose their 501 tax exemption. It’s ridiculous that some of the crap churches pull is “okay”.
http://bit.ly/gK8jujll

If your worried about the sanctity of marriage, haven’t straight people already messed that one up? The divorce rate is not actually 50%, it’s about 24% for people my age. Still though, if marriage was so special and sanctioned by the almighty god, the creator of the universe, don’t you think that we would be a little better at it?
http://bit.ly/h7EqW6

To address a point you made earlier about separate but equal, if your okay with gay civil unions, which is all marriage legally is anyways, what’s the problem with calling it marriage?
The government isn’t going to come into your church and make you guys perform marriages for gay dudes. That’s not how things work in this country. We let KKK dudes march in our streets. If you want to hate I’m okay with that. That is your right as an individual.
I shook a guys hand at the Alamo for damning me to hell for being an atheist. I don’t care what you say or believe. I will never advocate silencing anyone. Ever.

What I do care about is adhering the ideals set out in our constitution. One of those ideals is equality. It is ridiculous that in this day and age, we still have people who think it is okay to discriminate against other people based on anything.

I like the idea that I’m in an organization that is usually at the fore front of social issues like this. It took us a little longer this time, mostly because some guys at the top are really insecure about showering with gay dudes (really if you’ve ever showered at the gym, then you’ve showered with gay dudes). Very few people I know in the Army, aren’t okay with this. The ones who are not can go be bigots else where. I don’t need someone who cares that much about whether I suck dick or not to be watching my back. We have other issues to deal with.

Stacy J. Sciarra thank you Kerwin. I can’t tell you how much this post means to me. Really, it’s nice to have back up. Best Christmas present ever. (and remember – I’m Jewish!) ;)

Irreligiosophy vs Evidence 4 Faith Debate

Posted in Post on 12.Dec.10 - 345 by Kerwin

It seems unfair to call it a debate. Chuck and Leighton talk to these guys like children. None of their arguments are very complex. Chuck handily ripped apart most of their arguments without really breaking a sweat. He corrects them on their own arguments a few times as well, which I found infinitely amusing. Leighton is unusually docile. I was hoping he would say something to offend the delicate theist sensibilities but I guess he understands the need for civility in such arenas.

One of the theists tries the old “show me positive evidence for a lack of god” argument pretty early on. I hate that so much. It makes me want to punch myself in the dick. When will theists understand that you have to bring evidence to support your claim of a magical bearded cloud man?

Towards the end of the show, he spouts a long contrived list of poor evidences for Christianity. He actually says prophecy. Prophecy? Really, dude? Show me one prophecy in the bible that predicts something that comes true in exactly the way the bible predicts. I’ll be the first one in line at the alter come Sunday. Prophecy is pretty easy to use as an argument for the existence of god when you have really broad prophecies and ignore all the prophecies that were wrong like these ones.

Also, entropy has nothing to do with bio genesis. You hear the Thermodynamics argument a lot. What does temperature exchange have to do with bio genesis? It’s a silly argument made by people with little understanding of the subject

The Kalam cosmological argument, the grand daddy of of stupid theist arguments. I love that Christians will spout this drivel at you thinking that it’s the best thing they have ever heard. They seldom realize that it’s old as dirt, and was most likely thought up by “scary” Muslims. For those that aren’t familiar with it, KCA is as such:

  1. (1) Everything that has a beginning of its existence has a cause of its existence.
  2. (2) The universe has a beginning of its existence.

Therefore:

  1. (3) The universe has a cause of its existence.
  2. (4) If the universe has a cause of its existence then that cause is God.

Therefore:

  1. (5) God exists.

This argument has been refuted so many times, I assumed people knew that it was dumb already. Hume crushed your intelligent design arguments hundreds of years ago, and Chuck just crushed your KCA, right now, again.

http://evidence4faith.com/

http://www.irreligiosophy.com

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Posted in Post on 12.Dec.10 - 345 by Kerwin

I want this shirt so bad.

Link

 

Punk Rock JLA

Posted in geek on 12.Dec.10 - 345 by Kerwin
I love this picture by Annie Wu.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link from Geekosystem. Check out the whole thread here.

 

Stunning

Posted in Post on 11.Dec.10 - 344 by Kerwin

Stockholm is getting blown up

Posted in Post on 11.Dec.10 - 344 by Kerwin

I’m not entirely sure what’s going on. Who would blow up the Swedes? Those guys are awesome.

I wonder what notch has to say about all this.

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